Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
One great thing about points, you can always swap some during character creation, for a shorter lifespan, in exchange for a larger physique.
Alternative Ageing rules: relinquishing skill levels to save decline in health characteristics?
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Back to the topic... yeah, I don't mind this idea. Although I'd be most inclined to see the higher level skills degrade first. Or have a floor (definitely no skill gets lost - they'll always be zero or better). And maybe the current skill in training should be preserved - allow players that one way of choosing to stay a renowned expert in one field, or at least until actual INT and EDU loss forces them to lose their last remaining marbles...
Yes, the M4 is a better weapon than the M-16 in a variety of ways, but not an entire TL different.
That's a coward's way of rolling up, son. Stats as rolled, like we did in the stone age...
AndrewW
Emperor Mongoose
Then you need stone tablets to chisel them on, and hope they don't change.
You career may not be spent on your home world (e.g. Navy or Merchants), what if you are Drifter or Scout? Too many judgement calls for my liking.
We already have a mechanism for high TL/Soc people to avoid aging in anagathics. It would make more sense to just make then entirely legal and spend benefits to avoid aging rolls. But I am not sure what problem we are trying to fix.
We already have a mechanism for high TL/Soc people to avoid aging in anagathics. It would make more sense to just make then entirely legal and spend benefits to avoid aging rolls. But I am not sure what problem we are trying to fix.
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
MasterGwydion
Emperor Mongoose
Anagathics kill you. Better care due to TL does not.
Lower life expectancy in low tech times and places has a lot more to do with everyday dangers than any pure ageing factor. Lots of medieval guys lived to a ripe old age, mostly because they got lucky with childhood disease and had safe indoor jobs. If you made it to age 18 your were likely to make it to 40, and no one would be overly surprised if you made it to 60. At least in MGT2e you don't actually die if a stat drops to 0. You die if a stat drops to 0 and you can't afford the medical cost to save you. It's that post 70 stage where medical science keeps the withered old geezers breathing... on very low stats. You want better? Anargathics and enhancements. Up to and including brain in a jar and clone bodies.
Perhaps apply TL as if it were a characteristic to get a modifier to the term survival roll for characters that start and stay planetbound? TL2 gets a -3, TL9 gets a +1 and so on? That'll sort em out. (also makes sense from higher tech planets farming out all the actual dangerous stuff to automation...)
Perhaps apply TL as if it were a characteristic to get a modifier to the term survival roll for characters that start and stay planetbound? TL2 gets a -3, TL9 gets a +1 and so on? That'll sort em out. (also makes sense from higher tech planets farming out all the actual dangerous stuff to automation...)
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
Faith works wonders, without modern medical care.
Also, lack of pensions ensured continued exercise regime.
Possibly, lack of pollution, when not mining, or in dense urban congestion.
Also, lack of pensions ensured continued exercise regime.
Possibly, lack of pollution, when not mining, or in dense urban congestion.
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
God needed his book keeping talents, to keep track of new immigrants.
As regards equine byproducts, organic fertilizer.
As regards equine byproducts, organic fertilizer.
Grognardia
Cosmic Mongoose
In 2300 AD (also using Traveller rules), ageing rolls start at age 50 rather than age 34 due to advanced technology.
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
Maybe's it the average?
Considering the alternative life style:
Considering the alternative life style:
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
He feels entitled.
Wall-E was too obvious.
Wall-E was too obvious.
I think that's mostly their alternative to Anargathics.
CT tables probably were too brutal. Mongoose isn't that bad. Term 4 you need to roll 5+ to avoid any effect, term 5 you need 6+, term 6, 7+. But missing those rolls by up to three only results in -1 reductions. You can often offset them by working out on the personal development table and characters that start with beefy physical stats can cope, especially those with stats just under a bonus threshold such as 8 or 11. End 8 or End 6? Dex 11 or Dex 9? You can soak off a bit without it mattering much.
My five term Merchant/Pirate managed both ageing rolls just fine with average rolls and hasn't seen any reduction at 38. Her Str 8 and Dex 11 mean she can likely last well into her 50's before it affects her task rolls, and frankly if she somehow lasts until her 60's and her performance starts falling off as a result, that's realistic at any tech level.
But at the end of the day it's just a stick to encourage players to not push their luck too far.
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I am not really seeing aging as an issue. I was mass producing fast grown clones (12x) for a clone army (started just after the 4th Frontier war) delivered at age 18 in 1086. They were rolling at -2 and started rolling at age 26.
The game is set in 1114 and at 46 and after 6 terms and 5 aging rolls I was expecting them to be pretty decrepit, but they all made it having lost at most 3 stat points (one didn't fail a single roll). As they were all being built from the same template it might as well be a good one (9+d3) and they are still much better than the average 7 across the board pleb.
The game is set in 1114 and at 46 and after 6 terms and 5 aging rolls I was expecting them to be pretty decrepit, but they all made it having lost at most 3 stat points (one didn't fail a single roll). As they were all being built from the same template it might as well be a good one (9+d3) and they are still much better than the average 7 across the board pleb.
Condottiere
Emperor Mongoose
The difference might be whether you achieved that with a hundred sit ups a day, or anabolic steroids, for the physical ones.
While education can be widened, raw intelligence would need something artificial.
While education can be widened, raw intelligence would need something artificial.
